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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Chiedo umilmente scusa ma ....... non
sono esperto della cosa e non capisco come si fa ad iscriversi
...... comunque l'argomento mi interessa frequentandolo da .....
forse troppi anni.<br>
Un saluto<br>
R<br>
Il 25/10/2013 10:04, Luca Mandolesi ha scritto:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Ciao,
<div>mi sono iscritto anche io nella pagina del wiki
GDI_urbanistica. Visto che è nato da 20 minuti intanto ho solo
aggiunto il mio nome. Nei temi attivi ci mettiamo solo il
titolo del tema o anche una breve spiegazione?</div>
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<div>Ciao<br>
Luca</div>
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<div>Ciao a tutti,<br>
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riflessioni molto interessanti, poco tempo
per rispondere...<br>
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- non credo che "l'urbanistica contrattata"
aggiri il problema delle proprietà, anzi.
dovendo stimare il beneficio pubblico degli
accordi è molto importante stimare il valore
anche di terreni agricoli e confrontra più
soluzioni, per questo c'è bisogno di operare
a scala comunale, oltre il singolo foglio
catastale.<br>
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- sicuramente la scelta della base CTR (che ha
la finalità di descrivere compiutamente il
territorio) secondo me è corretta e
ineludibile per la pianificazione, anche se
costringe molti a fare i CDU "alla finestra".<br>
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<div>- la base cartografica catastale (non
tavolare), secondo la mia esperienza, nasce
per rispondere NON all'esigenza di descrivere
la realtà, ma le relazioni tra confinanti. (la
part 456 confina con 1001 , 1002, 1003) I
valori catastali sono nel censuario. Fiduciali
e coordinate sono stati materializzati negli
anni per rispondere ad una coerenza interna
(all'interno del foglio). <br>
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- Il catasto non pensa alla realtà, pensa ai
confini, il catasto è "ai confini della
realtà".<br>
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- il mio parere è che non esiste il CDU creato
in automatico dal sistema, l'occhio del tecnico
è sempre necessario. Con la pianificazione in
due livelli, dopo il piano operativo può essere
predisposto il CDU per tutte le particelle
interessate da campiamenti o per tutte le
particelle del comune, insomma un CDU precotto
da scaricare al bisogno.<br>
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- Nessuno ha capito veramente in cosa consiste un
piano strategico, nemmeno io.<br>
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- Il piano strategico, per sua natura richiede di
astrarre dalle proprietà e ragionare in una ottica
multidimensionale che solo i GIS possono dare
(valutare la validità di questa affermazione con il
punto precedente)<br>
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- dichiaro ufficialmente aperto il Gruppo di interesse
"GIS e pianificazione urbanistica" iscrivetevi sul
wiki a questa pagina:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.gfoss.it/index.php/GDI_urbanistica"
target="_blank">http://wiki.gfoss.it/index.php/GDI_urbanistica</a><br>
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Giuliano non ti dispiace fare da referente vero? Non hai
nessun obbligo, solo, se esce qualche proposta
interessante (tipo una giornata di studi, un
miglioramento del plugin di Fabio Saccon...) prenderti
la briga di riportarlo al Consiglio Direttivo.<br>
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amefad<br>
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