<div dir="ltr"><div>buongiorno.</div><div>orno alla ribalta con il mio quesito,</div><div>perchè ho fatto una serie di tentatitivo,</div><div>seguendo tutte le indicazioni dal wiki gfoss.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>
1) WMS di SigmaTer.</div><div>Con qgis mi connettermi, carico il layer (ad esempio dei fabbircati)</div><div>ma non riesco a visualizzare nessun tipo di informazione (vedo solo l'etichetta del copyright)</div><div>Qualcuno in rista riesce a visualizzare il layer?</div>
<div> </div><div> </div><div>2) Utilizzo del file XML mediante cxftoshape</div><div>Il sw funziona benissimo per la conversione del cxf in shp.</div><div>Quando carico l'xml con i punti noti mi effettua la conversione, </div>
<div>ma non c'è corrispondenza tra la mappa e i punti noti.</div><div>Avete esperienze positive con questo sw?</div><div> </div><div>3)CRS personalizzato da QGIS.</div><div>Gli unici metadati che trovo sul sito <a href="http://fiduciali.it" target="_blank">fiduciali.it</a> sono quelle sulle origini di grande estensione</div>
<div>(nel mio caso Siena) e con tali informazioni non riesco a riproiettare lo shp.</div><div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">
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</font></div><div> </div><div>4)Georeferenziazione a partire da punti noti.</div><div>Anche questa strada ardua perchè con qgis non riesco a georeferenziare un vettoriale.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Come mi consigliate di procedere?</div>
<div> </div><div>Grazie mille</div><div>un saluto</div><div>f.t.</div><div> </div>
<div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 27 maggio 2013 17:59, francesco tartaglia <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:francesco.tartaglia@gmail.com" target="_blank">francesco.tartaglia@gmail.com</a>></span> ha scritto:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Mi auto rispondo<br><a href="http://wiki.gfoss.it/index.php/Catasto" target="_blank">http://wiki.gfoss.it/index.php/Catasto</a><br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 27 maggio 2013 16:43, francesco tartaglia <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:francesco.tartaglia@gmail.com" target="_blank">francesco.tartaglia@gmail.com</a>></span> ha scritto:<div>
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<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Ciao.<br>
</div>Grazie per le informazioni.<br></div>Effettivamente SIGMA Ter mette a disposizione le mappe catastali tramite sitema WMS<br>
</div>per cui riesco ad associare le informazioni catastali al mio rilievo.<br>
<br></div>Per quanto rigurada la conversione del rilievo da wgs84 in Cassini Soldner,<br></div><div>non capisco se l'unica alternativa è Cartlab.<br></div>Io tendenzialmente lo eviterei, e proverei a lavorare in Postgis.<br>
</div>Ma vorrrei capire, innanzitutto se l'alternativa postgis è fattibile<br>e se il problema è stato già affrontato.<br><br><br></div>Grazie mille<br></div>un saluto<br>f.t.<br><div><div><div><div><div><div><br><br>
<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 29 aprile 2013 12:33, Mattia De Agostino <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mattia.deagostino@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattia.deagostino@gmail.com</a>></span> ha scritto:<div>
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<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">Ciao,<br>
bisogna innanzitutto vedere cosa intendi con "molto precisa": per quanto<br>
possa essere rigorosa la trasformazione tra sistemi di riferimento, le mappe<br>
catastali non saranno mai confrontabili con l'ordine di precisione del tuo<br>
rilievo GPS (pochi cm, immagino).<br>
Per quanto riguarda la conversione da e verso il sistema WGS84, il software<br>
Cartlab di Virgilio Cima è una soluzione, ma implica:<br>
1) che il centro di emanazione delle tue mappe catastali sia presente<br>
all'interno del software. Trovi le zone "coperte" qui:<br>
<a href="http://www.sxst.it/siti/sxst/sxst.nsf/prodotti/CartLab-3-Caratteristiche-principali?opendocument" target="_blank">http://www.sxst.it/siti/sxst/sxst.nsf/prodotti/CartLab-3-Caratteristiche-principali?opendocument</a><br>
<br>
2) la conversione di Cartlab è tra Cassini-Soldner e Gauss-Boaga. Per quanto<br>
riguarda questa procedura, ha un'incertezza dichiarata che non supera<br>
qualche decimetro. Tale valutazione riguarda soltanto il calcolo; la bontà<br>
del risultato dipende poi in modo sostanziale dalla qualità delle coordinate<br>
del centro di sviluppo.<br>
<br>
3) Cartlab esegue la successiva trasformazione da Gauss-Boaga a WGS84<br>
utilizzando i grigliati IGM (a pagamento) oppure un modello approssimato che<br>
apporta però una ulteriore incertezza nella tua conversione.<br>
<br>
Ridendo e scherzando...si arriva ad incertezze di 30 - 50 cm, comunque<br>
confrontabili con gran parte del catasto in Italia. Queste incertezze non<br>
sono però colpa del programma, che anzi esegue nel miglior modo possibile le<br>
conversioni, ma proprio del sistema di riferimento catastale in sé...<br>
<br>
Ho visto che qualcuno ti ha già suggerito SIGMA TER. Tra i servizi di quel<br>
portale c'è anche la conversione tra sistemi di riferimento delle mappe<br>
catastali. Prova a darci un'occhiata.<br>
<br>
Ciao,<br>
Mattia<br>
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